Meeting Minutes

PWOC GENERAL MEMBERSHIP AGENDA

December 01, 2018

Pahrump Museum

401 E. Basin

10:00am– Saturday

STAFF IN ATTENDANCE

 

  John Bosta   Wade Hinden   Christina Stern   Dwight Lilly

 

Attendees:
 
Members
 
Visitors

 Call to Order- Wade

  1. Pledge of Allegiance
  2. Review and approval of prior membership meeting minutes: 11-03-18 Minutes

Ellen Predmore motion to approve the minutes, Jack Anderson seconded, all in favor, all ayes

  1. Reports, discussions and possible action(s)
  • President- John Bosta
  1. Election and Voting Process

Month of October thru Dec. 15, 2018 to send application for Board. January the Ballots are mailed out to those who are paid up to 2019. February votes are counted by volunteer committee members

  1. Thank the Members for allowing me to be a Director for four terms.

John thanked all of us for our votes in his continuance on the Board for four terms

  • Secretary/Treasurer – Stern
  1. Bank Statement and Expenses, Income

Christina gave her report, Jack Anderson motioned to accept the expenses this month, Aaron Koehler seconded, and all were in favor.

  1. Open Invoice Report

Told everyone she had updated report, if any questions they can come up after meeting

  • Membership Certificates

Handed out Membership Certificates, and will be mailing them out this month. 

  • Vice President – Hinden
  1. Well Testing

He reminded them if they want there well tested to come up after meeting to sign up

  1. Signs/Advertisement

Anyone that wants a sign can come up after meeting 

  • Director – Lilly
    1. The ongoing by-laws committee progress

Helene, Larry, Herman, Dwight, Kenny, and Greg are on the committee

  1. The organization of the cooperative membership education program

He thanked everyone for watching the video, apologized for how long, and told us that he will show videos in part so not so long. And wants to do education on water at end of meeting-Ground Water management plan about 15 min

  • Order 1293 rescinded

1293 A was the amended version, Pahrump Fair Water (group of Real Estate agents) sued the State Engineer, there were also Utility companies, Well drilling companies involved and they raised $40,000 and hired Taggert & Taggert (water attorneys).  Dwight will let us know the updates next meeting.

  1. Engineers are plugging holes in Water treatment

Posted on website by Dwight, adding non-potable water throughout the country to our water tables.  Website:  privatewellowners.com.  He discussed some issues with the website.  Dwight said we are going to need another chairman taking over the T-shirts.  Dwight wanted to thank John also and ask the group to give him applause for all his hard work as President.

  Old Business

  1. New Business
  2. Introduction to Ground Water Management Plan

History:  In 2011, Nevada State Legislature passed into law Assembly Bill 419 referencing the submittal and approval by the State Engineer on the groundwater management plan.

Proponents of the plan was issued for particular basins, each basin is unique for present and future demands, available lands for development, existing populations and growth potential, types of uses, permitted water rights, domestic well density, production well locations, water utility availability, economic factors, and other conditions. Components of the plan could include a variety of actions and or state or local regulations to have groundwater withdrawals in step with the available groundwater supply.  The Pahrump Basin is one of the most over appropriated basins in Nevada and has the highest density of domestic wells of any basin in the State. In addition, the community of Pahrump has available need of lands in sufficient amount to support the population of 495,000 people. The Pahrump Basin perennial of 20,000 acre ft could support a population of approximately 80,000 people using the overall goal of 198 gallons per person per day adopted in the 2014 Pahrump Master Plan which was based on 18,000 acre ft. With the remaining perennial yield plus reuse water that future recharge credits available for irrigation. Note: Utilities doing business in the Pahrump Basin estimate average household usage within their service area at a range of 278-300 gallons per day per household.  This allowed them to create the Groundwater Management Plan. 

In summation, since 1967, domestic wells have been allowed 2 acre ft of water, 1800 gal. per day.  In the plan was to get a half million people living here in Pahrump, the goal is for 198 gallons per day per person in the plan.    

 Larry Blatchford spoke up about us needing someone for the website, and reminded us that today was a good day to turn in the Board application to be on Board as we needed someone with Secretarial skills.

     John recommended that we look into “Sole Aquifer” as groundwater is being polluted.  Sewer water is going on to the parks and golf courses.  We need to become pro-active. They’re admitting that there is pharmaceuticals in our groundwater that has never been tested.

      Wade brought up about a Park for bird watchers that do have signs about staying off the grass, Dwight said that the golf courses have signs.

        Kenny re-interated on what John was saying.  He talked about a DVD called BioSludge by Mike Adams(HealthRanger.com).  And another DVD called What Lies Upstream.    We test for 13 different toxins, but you need to know what you are looking for. 

  1. Adjourn Meeting

Charles Nebel motioned to adjourn, Ellen Predmore seconded, all were in favor.

Signed by Secretary/Treasurer

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PWOC GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MINUTES

November 03, 2018

Pahrump Museum

401 E. Basin

10:00am– Saturday

 

STAFF IN ATTENDANCE

 

X John Bosta X Wade Hinden X Christina Stern  X Dwight Lilly

 

Attendees:
23
Members
21
Visitors

 Call to Order

  1. Pledge of Allegiance
  2. Review and approval of prior membership meeting minutes: 09-01-18, 10-06-18 Minutes

Leo Blundo motioned to approve minutes, Charles Nebel seconded, all in favor ayes, no nays

  1. Reports, discussions and possible action(s)
  • Secretary/Treasurer – Stern
  1. Bank Statement and Expenses, Income

Leo Blundo motioned to approve bank report, Hugh Kendall seconded, all in favor ayes, no nays.

  1. Open Invoice Report

Treasurer told members they can come up and ask about their account

  • Membership Certificates

Called and handed out certificates

 

  • Vice President – Hinden
    1. No Reports

 

  • Director – Lilly
  • Video Presentation- Water and Power-A California Heist

      A movie about how water has become Gold to be traded and sold. A war between the Environment and Agriculture and the stealing of water legally (Kern County-Paramount Farms) at least according to the corrupt officials involved.  A town was completely without water and had to have help from other counties and be brought bottled water.

  Dwight said we will be showing more movies about water in other meetings to help educate us.

  Old Business

    • Revisit Topic- Removal letter-Helene Williams- ( Members Only)

     Let the members know that there was an apology letter emailed to Helene

  1. New Business

        Applications for Board Members were emailed out to those with emails and will be mailed this month. 

     Dwight told us about another video he wants to show called Cadillac Desert.

Bosta told us about the meeting he attended for Moapa Valley Water District.  There’s a curtailment order.  State Engineer doesn’t want to go by beneficial use, he wants to go by priority date.  Larry informed us of the by-law committee.  

  1. Adjourn Meeting

       Charles Nebel motioned to adjourn the meeting, Jack Anderson seconded, all in favor ayes, no nays

Signed by Secretary/ Treasurer

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PWOC GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING

October 06, 2018

Pahrump Museum

401 E. Basin

10:00am– Saturday

STAFF IN ATTENDANCE

X John Bosta X Wade Hinden Christina Stern X Dwight Lilly

Attendees:

27 Members

3 Visitors

1. Call to Order

2. Pledge of Allegiance

3. Review and approval of prior membership meeting minutes: 09-01-18 Minutes

None approved

4. Reports, discussions and possible action(s):

(a) President – Bosta

Helene was handed a refusal letter to renew her membership and a member stood up and said that we need to inform the membership as to why. John stated his case as to why

i. The Treaty of Guadalupe-California Supreme Court Case

Vinod Khosla bought Myrtle Beach property and people were using his land to go to Beach and the Coastal Commission said he had too let them use the easement across his land. So he filed a lawsuit, and applied the Treaty of Guadalupe he said he had a patent to the land and the State had no right and he won in District Court. He went to the Appellate Court and they ruled in his favor also. The State Legislature did an adoptive said that he had to give them the easement, and they went back to the 1972 prices, and the offered him 300,000 dollars for an easement, and he said, “No, he wanted 30 million dollars for the easement.” And the State refused and try to come up with other options like he didn’t have permits, etc., and he said, “Look, this is my property, I own it, and I don’t have to give you an easement”. And now it’s in Supreme Court. If this man wins the Supreme Court Case, it will close the Public Beaches on 1100 miles of California Beaches. This patent and the Treaty is going to be heard in the United States Supreme Court.

Reference: Sept. 2, 2018 New York Times article, “Sue at Your Own Risk”, page 5 last sentence 2nd paragraph, ”In one legal maneuver, he traced the property back to the 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo between the United States and Mexico, claiming it supersedes the Coastal Act.” The Supremacy Clause is the provision in Article Six, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution that establishes the United States Constitution, Federal Statutes, and Treaties are “the supreme law of the land”. It provides that these are the highest form of law in the United States legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either a state constitution or state law of any state.

John said Myrtle Beach, however it was Martins Beach, and the State Lands Commission estimated the cost at $360,000.

(b) Secretary/Treasurer – Stern

i. Bank Statement and Expenses, Income-

ii. Open Invoice Report

iii. Membership Certificates

No Reports

(c) Vice President – Hinden

i. Advertising

Will discuss Pahrump Valley Times or Over the Hump-No Ads this month

ii. Signs- Update-

donation min.- $10ea.—See Wade

iii. Well Testing

Well Testing, use water filter if you are drinking your water to keep sand out

iv. Fall Festival-Thanks to Membership

We shared with Dennis Hof and we had Republicans there, and we had a guy who had Trump hats and T-Shirts, and Wade thanked the Membership for their help, long weekend.

(d) Director – Lilly

i. T Shirts

Dwight is gonna use blue colored T-Shirts only., He wants to be our voice and reminded us we are the backbone. He talked about Salt Cedars, and they don’t drink as much water as they tried to proclaim. He wants to play the DVD about Water in California, 1 hour 19 min. at the beginning, everyone agreed and applauded., and he continued if you don’t believe after watching this and you still don’t come away with… that you have to fight tooth and nail to protect your domestic wells, then he doesn’t know what to say.

ii. Schinhofen allegations about Co-op

Schinhofen has been spending a lot of time in the press badmouthing our Co-op is lying and that they can Go and look up Facts about Water plan and Facts at the Water District Governing Board website. That is the information they are putting out there, but in Dwight’s opinion, using common sense and logic, if someone’s effort underfoot to take our domestic well allocation, cut it down, and use that allocation to build more housing developments. The Ground Water Management Plan he feels is full of smoke and mirrors.

iii. Metering Plan for Domestic Wells

Schinhofen has also been heard to say, “We aren’t going to try to meter your wells” Dwight brought an Article from the Spring of 2015, PVT newspaper where it was agendized on the Agenda to be included into the Water Plan to meter your wells. The manager and chairman of the water Board met with the State Engineer, and the came up with Order # 1293. The intent was to cut back wells to a ½ acre foot. Dwight is using 2 acre feet per a meter on his well.

iv. 501(C)12- Political PAC, LLC discussion

No Report

v. Plan going forward- steps to protecting our Aquifer from contamination

No Report

5. Old Business

(a) Members attending public meetings & Letters to our Commissioners update

All of us should be writing our letters to protect our wells. Is the County taking the Town of Pahrump’s money? He believes we all should attend the Public meetings and start asking questions. Cast our Vote for Members of our Co-op.

(b) Director Election – Nominations October thru November 30

Dwight is going to put his name in for President!

Postcards to Well Owners update-

No Report

Education of Water-Ad in Over the Hump

Over the Hump is $115-$150

(c) Petition to State Eng., Letters to Realtors

No Report

6. New Business

a) DWIGHT LILLY 97.7 RADIO SHOW $100.00 mo.

Jan Dechant moved we pay for Radio Shows, $100 mo., Ellen Predmore seconded, all Ayes in favor, no nays

Larry made a motion to allow Helene to reinstate her membership, Leo Blundo seconded, all in favor aye, 4 nay. John said ayes have it. John said he asked for the action to soon. Couple of members asked for discussion only. Leo Blundo said that he thinks they should present the evidence.

Helene spoke, said she joined Tom Adam’s By-Laws committee, made corporate Notebook. Would like to run for Board.

Leo Blundo clarified it’s discussion that it isn’t over, and so did a few other people screaming over Larry.

Kenny Bent spoke on this item after reading emails between her and Tom Adams and, he believed it to also be attacks and removal of Bosta and that it would help destroy the Co-op from the inside of our ranks.

Leo Blundo motioned that the Board of Director’s present it’s case to the body, and this item be revisited next meeting, Nov. 3, 2018, Linda Thornburg seconded, all voted aye.

7. Adjourn Meeting-

Meeting adjourned

Signed by

Christina Stern- PWOC Secretary/Treasurer

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PRIVATE WELL OWNERS CO-OP MEETING

MINUTES

Sept. 6, 2018

Pahrump Museum

401 E. Basin

10:00 am – Saturday

1. Call to Order

2. Pledge of Allegiance

3. Review and approval of prior membership meeting minutes: 08-04-18 Minutes

Leo Blundo motioned to approve minutes, Marvin Markham seconded, all voted yea

4. Reports, discussions and possible action(s):

(a) President – Bosta

i. Update- Bongiovi Attorney & CPA

John updated the members on the purpose of our Co-op. and the expenses we paid are in accordance to our purpose. There are 4 bills right now on Water going through this next year’s legislative process. We lost the law firm Bongiovi.

(b) Secretary/Treasurer – Stern

i. Bank Statement and Expenses, Income

Verbal Report made. Greco motioned to accept expenses, Leo Blundo seconded, all voted yea

ii. Open Invoice Report

Told the members they can ask at end of meeting to check and see how much they owe.

iii. Membership Certificates

iv. September Invoicing and Membership Dues

Invoicing all members this month, mailing out

(c) Vice President – Hinden

i. Advertising

He said we need to start reading the PVT paper. This month we will pay for ad.

ii. Signs- Update- order of signs- 100ea.

2- sided signs, for a min. of 10.00 donation or more.

iii. Well Testing

2 wells had high nitrate readings

iv. New Applications

Posted to website: privatewellowners.com, can download, print, and fill out.

(d) Director – Lilly

i. T Shirts

Took off for summer heat, will have more shirts October meeting.

ii. 501(C)12- Political PAC, LLC discussion

Still looking into

iii. Plan going forward- steps to protecting our Aquifer from contamination

Nitrates and Agent Orange (Cotton farming) use are issues with our aquifer

iv. Ceramic Filter

Dwight brought in his homemade water filter, and showed everyone the ceramic filter he bolted at the bottom of a high grade bucket.

(e) Director – Adams-

resigned by email from Board and Membership.

5. Old Business

(a) Members attending public meetings & Letters to our Commissioners update

Reminded members how important this is

(b) Director Election – Nominations October thru November 30

President Board of Directors position is termed out, volunteer to be on Board in Tom’s Director position, and next two months, make your nominations

(c) Postcards to Well Owners update

6. New Business

i. Well Owners signs for donations $10.00 min

Larry spoke and showed that his pump was fried and the cost.

7. Adjourn Meeting

Signed by Secretary/Treasurer:

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PRIVATE WELL OWNERS CO-OP MEETING

MINUTES

May 17, 2018

Pahrump Museum

401 E. Basin

10:00 am – Thursday

X John Bosta X Wade Hinden Christina Stern X Dwight Lilly X Tom Adams

24 Members, 3 Visitors attended

  1. Call to order
  2. Pledge of Allegiance –
  3. Review and approval of previous membership meeting minutes- 3-0 vote to approve 4-19-18 minutes.
  4. Reports
    1. President – John Bosta
      1. Immediate Resignation of Secretary – Accepted – Secretary resigned 5/05/18 Board Meeting, received letter of Resignation.
        1. Board of Directors Appointed Christina Stern Temp Secretary/Treasurer pursuant to the By-Laws, page 35 lines 2-4: Section Six, Vacancies Management Members Board; Any vacancy occurring in the Board or Officer or committee Member shall have the position filled by a temporary appointment by the Board.   Christina accepted position
      2. Pursuant to the By-Laws, page 31 lines 22-23: The Board shall be composed of members of the Co-Op. The Board shall be composed of five (5) members. Therefore, the Board has no vacancy.  Board positions are accepted and filled at this time, Dean Miller refused position. John started with Agenda Item 8 with Board Director Tom Adams
    2. Treasury – Christina Stern – President John will do this report
      1. Financial Report
        1. Expenses-Dwight Lilly – Reimbursement for materials, equipment wear,electrical costs and auto fuel for Co-op Tee Shirts.
        2. Ads for June 2018- Over the Hump
        3. Total Expenses
      2. Robert Dey motioned that we accept paying the bills, seconded by Judith Holmgren, and  voted yea unanimously.
      3. Membership certificates.  Wade handed out the Certificates.  John announced the balance of certificates will be mailed
      4. Wade told us that our ad wasn’t in the PVT this time
    3. Vice President – Wade Hinden
      1. Well testing-he explained the well testing to the Membership.
      2. Signs
    4. Director – Dwight Lilly
      1. Court hearing, May 10th – Pahrump Fair Water v. State Engineer and I will discuss the challenges ahead in the legislature and if needed, legal trenches.
      2. Pahrump Fair Water group is made up of realtors, etc., suing the State Engineer for stay of Order 1293. Dwight’s opinion is that he felt the attorneys they used for Water Law were excellent and could represent us in future, if need be.
      3. Plus an update on my campaign.- Dwight told us of all the meetings he has attended, it’s his opinion that we the people are not being represented by our local officials.  This is why he chose to run against Schinhofen. Dwight believes that the open meeting laws have been violated at the Commission meetings, and he asked for volunteers to help him out with the T-shirt fundraiser, etc. and down to Agenda item 9…
    5. Director – Tom Adams
      1. Bylaw Committee – Helene & Aaron
      2. Status, Purpose of PWOC, Legislative restrictions?
        1.  Tom spoke and gave presentation:  Status remains the same at this time, misconceptions of open meeting laws discussed, He showed us the Articles of Incorporation, and how the by-laws are repeating what they state. Chapter 82, 501(c)12
        2. We are to be guided by open meeting laws, 2. We will comply with the spirit of open meeting laws. Open meeting laws are specific to public organization and we are a private organization, so open meeting laws do not apply.  A public body is a government body of 2 or more people supported by tax dollars.
        3. Legislative restrictions- he showed us another organization who is a 501(C)12, and makes political contributions.  John has an appointment to call on the 22nd of this month to contact a CPA Accountant to make sure we are filing taxes correctly, and Tom brought up if we don’t get legislatively active, we will lose because they are using legislative actions to fight us well owners.  More members need to start attending the BOCC meetings and make your public comments. Wade said, “The BOCC meetings are the 3rd Tuesday of every month, here in Pahrump.” Go to Nyecounty.net/list.apx.  Now back to Agenda Item 5…
  5. Old business – UDATE: Realtor’s Letters- Committee/Board?
    1. Kenny spoke on this: that either the Board form a committee or the Board create a letter to all realtors that they abide by Disclosure laws- Kenny in doing research found nothing in law at this time, his suggestion is get 3 County Commissioner’s to create an ordinance.
  6. New Business
    1. Member ship meeting change, start July, 1st Saturday of month, at 1pm-In changing the meeting day and time, Board feels we could get more members to attend who work during the week. Volunteers to Set- up & take down chairs and tables after meeting- Only when Saturday meetings begin- Volunteers are Dey, Schmidt, Garrett, Markley, Roth. Blundo motioned that we move the meeting to first Saturday of month at 1pm, seconded by Garrett, yeas by membership, one apposed.  Jack Anderson motioned that meeting beginning on Saturdays is moved back to 10am.  Seconded by Blundo, and members voted aye, two Nays.   Meeting time is changed to 10am. New ad in Paper in June, and send notices to all members.
  7. Comments from/to members
    1. Need volunteers for various Museum projects
    2. Blundo spoke about NO METERS ON WELLS.  Is our water worth fighting for? John has a list of subdivisions that water was dedicated too, and asked Dwight to post to Website:  privatewellowners.com.   John reminded group to contact your District Commissioner and your State Legislators and tell them to leave our real property alone.
  8. Adjourn meeting
    1. Meeting Adjourned

 

NOTE:  THERE WILL BE NO SMOKING IN THE MUSEUM AT ANY TIME.

 

Signed by:                                 ___________________________________

Christina Stern- Secretary/Treasurer